Can a NJ plumber tell me...

MIKE6

What code is to be used to bring a chimney into compliance.I'm talking about replacing a furnace,water heater or boiler or any combination of.Also does this change from town to town or is it a state wide blanket code.If you live in NJ you know what I'm talking about.
Mike

Unknown

All new atmosphericly vented appliances need a chimney certification from the town. I'd get a liner. Spend the money and protect your new boiler.

STEVE PAUL_3

KC is correct. The codes in NJ are state wide mandatory codes. Local municipalities have very little input except for enforcement.

MIKE6

Yea but

What code book applies to bringing the chimney up to specs.i need to make copies of the code,sizing charts to explain why or why not a liner is needed to the inspector.The inspector is of no use at all.
MIKE

Anthony Menafro

Mech code book

The 2003 Mechanical code book is where you'll find the sizing charts. Also look in the 2003 National Fuel code book to cross reference.

Anthony

wm_2

dv

forget the liners and chimney certs use direct vent equipment
much safer and more efficient
as much as the UCC is supposed to elimminate municipalites from having their own codes that is only in a perfect world

Robert O'Connor_12

Mike

You asked a very good question and the answer is,

it depends.

We, in the Great State of New Jersey have adopted the 2003 International Mechanical & Fuel gas codes (with exceptions).
As some of the posters have already stated, the short answer would be the 03 IMC. Sizing information within this code can be found in Chapter 5 (more specifically starting with the tables 504.2(1) and ending with 504.3(8b).

The codes for which we must follow are state wide, however some municipalities can and have adopted by ordinance and or resolution different guidelines usually pertaining to terminations points, for instance, my municipality has set forth regulations affecting terminations and prohibit the vent terminals to be seen from the street. Other conditions must be met when applying, such as submitting a property survey showing where you would locate a central air conditioning condensor (this too shall not be seen from the street or that certain barriers concealing said equipment must be approved by the Historic Preservation Committee). Other differing rules sometimes appear to be born from the construction code department when in fact they are from zoning compliance or HPC rules.

Mike, I too live and work in New Jersey and it makes me crazy when I hear the "If you live in NJ you know what I'm talking about" line. If you belive you are being treated unfairly, or that a rouge inspector is breaking your cubes for no reason, call the Department of Community Affairs or contact me. I will see that you are treated fairly and will make certain further abuse is not tolerated.

KC had pointed out that all new atmospheric appliances need chimney certifications and wm seems to feel we can forget about certification, when in fact ALL appliances, direct vent, fan assisted, atmospheric, ect. ALL must submitt a certification (F370).

Just to let you know that other inspectors are listening to your questions within our state, click on this link and scroll to the bottom of the page and then tell me what you see.

http://www.njpia.org/

Robert O'Connor/NJ