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6 inch drop header coming up

Paul S_3
Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
in a few weeks. i will keep you guys posted.
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  • Danny Scully
    Danny Scully Member Posts: 1,416
    Let me guess, it's for a power vent IN3? :wink:
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  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
    lol...no weil mclain 680
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    Located in Staten Island NY
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  • Danny Scully
    Danny Scully Member Posts: 1,416
    edited July 2016
    Update? Never mind just re-read a few weeks :disappointed:
  • lchmb
    lchmb Member Posts: 2,997
    some reason my arms just started hurting... WOW..
  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,294
    Turning those 5' steel pipe wrenches are a work out
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  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
    I bought (1) 60 inch....and I have a 36 inch chain wrench...they should work? I never turned bigger than 4 inch
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  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,294
    36" chain wrench capacity is 41/2" you'll need another 5' wrench
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  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,294
    3 strand lamp wick and Permabond will do the job on those 6" nipples and pipe threads
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  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
    edited July 2016
    the 36 in chain wrench wraps around the fittings with a lot of slack.... seems like itll work....I believe JSTAR used this type of wrench with the 60in...ezzy when you say 3strand lamp wick...you mean the wick that comes in a ball? I was thinking lamp wick,megatape and megaloc.....Ive used that on 3 and 4in...has anybody used Ridgid's compound leverage wrench? looks big and bulky
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    Located in Staten Island NY
    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
    347-692-4777
    ASMMECHANICALCORP@GMAIL.COM
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  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 15,588
    Amatuer question here, please don't take offense.

    But, why would you need lampwick with good cut threads and quality fittings? Shouldn't Megaloc alone work just fine?
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  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,294
    It will work with the chain wrenches but you'll have to put a lot of weight into it, yes lamp wick in a ball. Teflon on top of the lamp wick will work too.
    Yes compound pipe wrenches are a bit bulky but there worth having, sometimes you just can't get that extra leverage with a pipe persuader or don't have the room for one that's when the compound pipe wrench comes in handy
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  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
    edited July 2016
    @ChrisJ I just would like to make sure turning all that pipe and then I have a leak....better safe then sorry....back in march I did a 4 in header I only used megatape and megaloc, no lamp wick worked fine.. I really never use lamp wick on new fittings
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    Located in Staten Island NY
    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
    347-692-4777
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  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
    @EzzyT do you have a compound wrench? do you use it often if you do?
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  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 15,588
    Paul S said:

    @ChrisJ I just would like to make sure turning all that pipe and then I have a leak....better safe then sorry....back in march I did a 4 in header I only used megatape and megaloc, no lamp wick worked fine.. I really never use lamp wick on new fittings

    On my 2" risers and 3" header I only used Megaloc dope on all new joints, nothing else. Into the block I used Blue Monster tape + Megalock just because I didn't like the feel of the threads. Also tape + dope into the original fittings on the mains.

    The way I go, with the few things I do is if I can thread it together dry a few turns smoothly, I use only dope. If it binds fast, and feels poor I use tape and dope.

    The only thing I've had problems with were female copper adapters which is why I've been using brass couplers + copper male adapters ever since. Never an issue since switching.

    If I have to use nipples or fittings from Home Depot or Lowes I throw them out and find good material.

    Of course, I haven't done a huge amount of threaded joints. Probably what I do in a year a typical contractor does in a day. But it works for me, so far. I only asked because I wanted to know Ezzy's reason for using lamp wick on the larger fittings. I thought perhaps because it's hard to "tighten the hell out of them" like you can with smaller stuff. You never know, I may end up with an EG-35 with a 5 or 6" header one day. :)




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  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,294
    Chris the thread depth on 6" are really deep and Teflon tape just doesn't do it
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  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,294
    Yes I do and use it not so often but when I need it I have it
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  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 15,588
    EzzyT said:

    Chris the thread depth on 6" are really deep and Teflon tape just doesn't do it

    I didn't think about the thread depth. Personally I feel PTFE tape works best at sealing, while dope works best at lubricating. So, you're reasoning of the wick because of the deeper threads makes sense in my mind.

    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • SWEI
    SWEI Member Posts: 7,356
    The old guys used litharge and glycerine. We have anaerobic threadlockers.
  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
    some progress on 6 inch header.

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  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261


    ASM Mechanical Company
    Located in Staten Island NY
    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
    347-692-4777
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  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,294
    Looking good @Paul S
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  • Fred
    Fred Member Posts: 8,542
    WoW! Beautiful!
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  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,294
    What size boiler is that again?
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  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
    edited September 2016
    787K weil mclain 680....thanks guys
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  • warno
    warno Member Posts: 229
    Good gerd!!! I really hope the handle on that big wrench is aluminum. Makes me glad I weld everything, takes 10 times longer but my tools are light enough a child could use them.

    Looks good man!
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  • Dave0176
    Dave0176 Member Posts: 1,177
    edited September 2016
    Paul show those welders there are still real men that can screw pipe lmaooooo.....
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  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
    Lmao
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  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,294
    Hahaha
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  • warno
    warno Member Posts: 229
    It takes a real man to swing those wrenches. That's for sure! I've had to run my fair share of 1" and 2" pipe threading it together but never 6".
  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
    edited September 2016
    i personally think the 4 in was harder connecting to the supply mains 9 feet high....6 inch is just really heavy but its a straight run....the 4 inch is tough to line up, up that high.....and big thanks to @EzzyT for all the help and tips
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    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
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  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,294
    Those steel 5 footers are a workout lol. No problem @Paul S anytime
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  • Sailah
    Sailah Member Posts: 826
    Man I got tired just looking at those pictures. I need to go out to the plant and do some 2" steam trap curls...
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  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,294
    Lmao
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  • Looking very nice indeed. Excellent design, perfect proportions, I see the equalizer already lined up to the return. Bravo! Can't wait for tomorrow's pics.
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  • The Steam Whisperer
    The Steam Whisperer Member Posts: 1,215
    VERY NICE!!!! That boiler will have a mcuh better chance of having a long life with the movement allowed by those threaded fittings. I don't think I have seen a single big Weil (or for that better most any newer larger cast iron boiler) here in Chicago installed with threaded swing joints, let alone a drop header. Everything is welded right up to the block, often with no swing arms at all. Sometimes we'll see a few flanges on the boiler risers that may allow the block to move but that's it. 14 years for the LGB's and maybe a little longer for the 88's is the typical life we see with all welded piping on multiple riser boilers. Single riser boilers generally last about twice as long or more. It's great to see someone investing in piping it up for decades of life.
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  • njtommy
    njtommy Member Posts: 1,105
    Nice work.
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  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
    edited September 2016
    what do you guys think so far ? any suggestions to improve installation?
    .....im piping storage tanks soon....i soldered on this job not the usual propress i had the time and have a bunch of sweat fittings .....im still not as good as @Stephen Minnich though....lol...thanks Paul S



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  • Fred
    Fred Member Posts: 8,542
    Beautiful!
  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,294
    Beautiful as always @Paul S
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  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
    edited September 2016
    Thanks @EzzyT .....thanks again for all your help....Ezzy you are one knowledgable individual....i also found a few bottles of steamaster tablets....finally...there not that readily available.....
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    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
    347-692-4777
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