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Steve_210
Steve_210 Member Posts: 646
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  • Steve_210
    Steve_210 Member Posts: 646
    edited June 2014
    Thanks

    Tks
  • Snowmelt
    Snowmelt Member Posts: 1,405
    Great job

    Did you wing it ad you enter, did you follow a picture from here?

    Did you cut pipe or just have a bunch of nipples?
  • Steve_210
    Steve_210 Member Posts: 646
    edited June 2014
    We cut

    we have a machine does 2 1/2 to 4

    Pictures from here and manufactures instructions

    We have done a lot of residents steamers but only a handful of commercial.

    Always looking to improve and learn something new

    Hence the reason for posting
  • JStar
    JStar Member Posts: 2,752
    Steam

    What size boiler?

    What size header?
  • jonny88
    jonny88 Member Posts: 1,139
    looks beautiful

    the extra work is worth it,I posted a similar question not so long ago and steamhead suggested I increased the drop header to 2 1/2 in on a IN5

    ChrisJ posted a beauty on his site I dont know if you saw it or not.

    Good luck
  • Steve_210
    Steve_210 Member Posts: 646
    Burnham 507B

    3 inch header
  • JStar
    JStar Member Posts: 2,752
    Header

    I would have gone to a 5" header. My charts show 3" as good for up to 140,000 BTUH. For the 5007B DOE output, a 3" header has the steam moving at over 56 ft/sec. A 5" header, at 20 ft/sec. My charts assume a 1PSI maximum cut-out.



    Might not make a difference, but something to keep in mind for the next one.
  • Charlie from wmass
    Charlie from wmass Member Posts: 4,318
    Looks nice

    using the second riser puts it a bit above what is needed but will dry out the steam better. The Starbucks books I have on heating warn about using too large of piping than what is needed as it mean more air to be vented for each cycle and more heat loss due to the increased surface area. Burnham called for one riser you used 2 and Burnham called for a 3" header and you dropped it . Nice job and nice balance between doing it right and not wasting anyone's money. What do you use for a threader?
    Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.

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  • RobG
    RobG Member Posts: 1,850
    Header

    I will not get involved in the great header debate:) The only piping change (not to include the header debate). I would have put a union on each riser as it would make repairs / section replacement / boiler removal easier down the road. With my luck, piped as it is, I would end up with a sand hole in a fitting or section and have to disassemble all of it. But that's just me. 



    Beautiful workmanship.



    Rob
  • Steve_210
    Steve_210 Member Posts: 646
    Thanks guys

    Used the 3 inch header because that's the size manufactures called for

    Charlie I use a ridgid 4JP I think it is called.

    Do not think it's made anymore I have to change the teeth for Each different size pipe.

    The advantage over universal one is that it smaller if you ever have to thread in position which is very rare it leaves you a bit more room.

    Some guys might call this a donkey head can be used with Ridgid 300 or 700.

    I have attached some before pictures
  • Charlie from wmass
    Charlie from wmass Member Posts: 4,318
    Yep I have a 4 pj in my shop too

    The 141 is nice. I kind of collect threaders so I also have the 4" and the 6" beaver heads. The beaver 4" is small like the 4pj but is adjustable.
    Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.

    cell # 413-841-6726
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  • gennady
    gennady Member Posts: 839
    edited June 2014
    Header

    I usually install shut off valve on steam line to the system, and shutoff valve with blowdown valve upstream on return line to facilitate boiler blowdown and return line purging. And unions on all boiler pipes connections. Also I would give more distance between the 2 tees.

    I would also go up in pipe size after first tee, so the first tee would be 4x3x3, and continue with 4" with 4" full elbow down on equalizer. Of course 4" might become 5" depending on boiler input.
  • gennady
    gennady Member Posts: 839
    Tees

    I install first tee as close to 90 as possible and as far from second tee as possible. Just move tee to the left. It gives time for carry over water to get to bottom of the pipe and slow down. Makes good steam and water separation.
  • gennady
    gennady Member Posts: 839
    One riser.

    With 1 riser you increase steam velocity in the pipe, make water level in the boiler uneven and increase amount of carry over water. You can do one riser as slant fin does, but size of this riser must be pretty large.
  • jonny88
    jonny88 Member Posts: 1,139
    keep us posted

    let us know how you made out.good luck with it