Gas bill

John S.

I looked all over that site for historical data (evidentally not well enough) That's awesome!. Even gives you a Comma Seperated file you can import into excel.

Thanks Mike T.

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Bob W._3

Gas bill

Nov. 2 - Dec. 5; 437 therms; $603.70; ouch.

Jeff Lawrence_25

And I was complaining

My consumption more than doubled from the previous month. We used 52 ccf in October and 115 ccf in November. I paid 1.49/therm in October and 1.79/therm in November.

(On Edit)I looked at the spreadsheet and in September I used 28 ccf. It nearly doubled from September to October and again for October to November. I can't wait for December...

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Jason_15

OUCH

What city are you in, and how many SQ. FT. are you heating?? What type of heating plant?

Mike T., Swampeast MO

Cape Girardeau, MO

3,400 sf; 91 mbh input

Nov 1 to Dec 2, 2004: 111 therms, $140.66; 490 degree days.

Nov 1 to Dec 4, 2005: 53 therms; $92.55; 589 degree days.

30% increase in gas price, 17% increase in degree days, 52% decrease in total gas consumed.

GENERAL setback of 5°-6°F compared to last year. No daily setback (either year). Am working to optimize the heating curve of the Vitodens.

Gas use includes stand-alone domestic water heater with 15 ccf average monthly consumption.

So... 2004: .20 therms per degree day

and 2005: .065 therms per degree day

Have used some forced air electric on cold mornings. Maybe a $10 increase in electric compared to average. Did not have boiler on for first 6 days of the period this year compared to last year but did have the electric on for those days.

I've never kept the place at a temps that most consider "warm" and am definitely doing the "Euro-cave" thing this year. Savings speak for themselves even if I don't expect such a drastic reduction next month.

Overall utility bill down $44 from last year but with colder weather. Quite comparable to the drop last year when the Vitodens was installed. Why do I expect that the utility company will be coming to see if there's something wrong...

Bob W._3

HDD

Mike, where are you finding your HDD data? I'm having trouble getting local data. Thanks.

Bob W._3

North Mankato, MN; 4000 +; single pipe steam; 450,000 BTU input; 1125 sq. ft. steam

Mike T., Swampeast MO

Data from Weather Underground

Will I say it's perfect? No. Will I say it's reasonable? Yes.

Bob W._3

Thanks Mike. I have looked at the data there. Do you just add it up day by day or is there a link to HDD?

Mike T., Swampeast MO

Go to the "Details" and/or "History" for a given day. You'll see a "Custom" option. Click on that and you can enter a period of time.

Bob W._3

Got it. Thanks. 43,700,000 BTU / 1134 HDD / 4150 Sq. ft. = 9.285 BTU/SF/HDD. Wait to see what happens when the new boiler goes in.

Mike T., Swampeast MO

Cold Snap Update

Last 6 days:

251 degree days, 28 ccf.

.111 therms per degree day

3,400 sf; 91 mbh input

supply temp: 93° @ 7°

John Starcher_4

Don't feel bad, John.....

...I can't find it either! If you figure it out, let me know.

Starch

RadPro

Mike I had worked out your numbers and your savings over 2004 with the DD factored in worked out to 60% reduction over the previous year. Were you running the Vito in 2004 if so... how have you reduced 60 percent less...Paul

Tom S.

historical data...how.

From their help section:

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Mike T., Swampeast MO

Yes, was running the Vito in 2004. 5-6 degrees of general (all-time) setback. SIGNIFICANT lowering of a reset curve that only topped at 141 degrees at 8 outside to begin with.

Had a similar reduction last year during the same period.