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heatboyheatboy Posts: 1,468Member
Could you e-mail those pictures to me? Great info!

hb

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  • EinsiedlerEinsiedler Posts: 61Member
    aluminum HE?

    somewhereI heard the NTI Trinity uses aluminum in its contruction (HE, condenser).

    Does anyone know if this is true? I am now reading that the Trinity is all Stainless..

    hmmm.

    Terry
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  • BrianBrian Posts: 285Member
    Trinity

    The Trinity has always been stainless.The HX is made by the same company that makes the Vitoden's HX.Weil-McLain's wall-hung is the one with the aluminum HX

    Good Luck
    Brian
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  • KURT BEAUVAISKURT BEAUVAIS Posts: 4Member


    A TRINITY HEAT EXCHANGER IS NOTHING LIKE A VITODEN HEAT EXCHANGER. CHECK OUT VIESMANN LITERATURE , THE VITODEN HEAT EXCHANGER IS ALWAYS PICTURED, INCLUDING CUTAWAYS . I HAVE SEEN CUTAWAYS OF TRINITY AND MUNCHKIN HX,S TAKE A LOOK YOU WILL BE SURPRISED
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  • Steve MillerSteve Miller Posts: 115Member
    Trinity vs. Vitoden

    I'm pretty sure its the same heat exchanger in the T150 and T200 and the Vitoden 200. I've only installed one Vitoden and several T200's and they seemed to be alike. At least that's what the guy from NY Thermal told me and I trusted him.

    What ever happened to that guy from the utility Dept. that said they had to tear out a bunch of 'em (Trinity T150 and 200's) cause they were bad? I wanted to know the specific problem because I've had great luck with them so far. Did I miss his follow up post?

    Steve M
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  • HenryHenry Posts: 57Member
    The Vitodens heat exchanger

    is manufactured by Viessmann and it is nothing like the Gianonni heat exchanger that is used by Trinity or Munchkin. Gianonni of France produces this heat exchanger for many companies, Viessmann is not one of them. The Vitodens heat exchanger can be seen on the Viessmann web site at www.viessmann.com.

    Furthermore, there are significant differences in the parmeters of operation between the Vitodens and the Trinity / Munchkin, et al. Most of it has to do with gap length, gap precision, need for combustion chamber refractory in the Gianonni, operation of the Matrix burner and the Comfortrol programming unit.

    There are other differences, but suffice to say, a visual examination will prove the point.
    Good luck in your decision.
    Henry
    Viessmann Midwest
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  • Michael BMichael B Posts: 179Member
    oh my

    stars and garters! I guess they are both stainless steel. As they say on dragnet "Just the facts mam".

    Michael Bleier
    Able Distributors
    www.abledistributors.com
    "The Supplier Who Works With You"
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  • kenken Posts: 33Member
    howbout weil ulra? pics?

    what wrong with weil ultra
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  • Steve MillerSteve Miller Posts: 115Member
    vitoden vs. Trinity

    Well by golly, both heat exchangers do look different. I guess time will tell if Trinity's will be a good thing we'd like to be selling our customers. The pic of the Trinity isn't as flattering as the vitoden's slick glossy and clear photo, is this some of Vissmans literture?

    Steve
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  • Steve EbelsSteve Ebels Posts: 904Member
    Web site

    Make that www.Viessmann-US.com. click on products, then wall mount condensing boilers, the HX and burner pix are on page 3.
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  • HenryHenry Posts: 57Member
    where do I work??

    I probably should know what the web address is. Thanks for clearing that up Steve.

    Henry
    Viessmann Midwest
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  • heatboyheatboy Posts: 1,468Member
    Or..................

    you can check here.

    Quite possibly the coolest boiler ever!
    heatboy



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    "The laws of physics will outweigh the laws of ecomomics every time."
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  • JohnJohn Posts: 1Member
    Trinity

    Has anyone had a cracked heat exchanger or leaks on this unit. I've heard of some problems through the grapevine.
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  • Matt ConnollyMatt Connolly Posts: 67Member
    I heard from a Canadian supplier

    that Gaz Metropolitain (the Quebec Utility) had too many failures of the Trinity and no longer offers them for sale or supports them in the field. His name is Rock Groleau at MRG Drouin - # is 418-228-8019. He has the details.
    Matt
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  • BrianBrian Posts: 285Member
    Trinity

    I talked to two of my suppliers plus I've got about a dozen installed myself.They have seen no problems with the heat exchangers.There was a problem with the flue connection where there was some condesate leakage but that was fixed.Like any new product there's going to be some bugs and it seems that the contractor is on the steep side of the learning curve.I was at a one day course on the Trinity about a month ago where they were showing all the new changes. I still believe in the product and have no in recommending them to my customers.You may want to check with Dan Peel because his company has installed a lot of them as well.

    Good Luck
    Brian
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  • Dan PeelDan Peel Posts: 431Member
    Same story

    Like Brian we have installed enough units to get comfortable with the product. The "Trinity" is picky about it's venting, especially on propane, and requires plenty of flow through the HX. As far as performance - they do their job, efficiently. We've had no issues with the exchangers. Dan

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  • Richard MillerRichard Miller Posts: 139Member
    what are you...

    referring to on the venting issues espec. with propane? details please. (trying to avoid future problems)


    Are you saying my current installation with 50 feet of 2" with 13 90's won't work? LOL

    I am pushing the very limits... 15' with 4 45's. Would that concern you? I will fire it this afternoon. Gonna try out my newly arrived Honeywell Combustion Analyzer!
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  • Dan PeelDan Peel Posts: 431Member
    Venting

    The "New" spec. for all Trinity propane fired installs is 3" venting. No 2" allowed. Check out their new install manual @ www.nythermal.com . Random nuisance coding on the sentry control or lockouts on the fenwall (ASO, ASC, ER5, 3 flashes) were the common faults on the earlier versions. Learning the product makes the difference. The picture is preassembly in a 35" crawl - Trinity 200. Dan

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  • Richard MillerRichard Miller Posts: 139Member
    OK....

    I bought this one a few months ago and it doesn't have the new specs. Think I would get some benefit if I changed part of the flue to 3" or is multiple sizes a no-no? I can't access all of it but I can part of it.
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  • Dan PeelDan Peel Posts: 431Member
    Nope

    My understanding is all or nothing on vent sizing.
    You may have no problem at all or may have to dial in the air switch sensitivity. Time will tell.... Dan

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  • Richard MillerRichard Miller Posts: 139Member
    that is

    what I understood. was just curious what your thoughts were.
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  • Steve MillerSteve Miller Posts: 115Member


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