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Uneven radiator heat

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Hello all,iam trying to balance my radiator to have even heat on all. The 2 in the living room heat up at the same time, the have hoffman 41 vent. All the other radiators have hoffman 1a vents. Everytime i adjust a radiator it doesent heat up on the next cycle. After that it starts heating up. Why? Also 2 rdiators near the boiler dont heat up at the same time as the others,please help me balance them.

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  • nicholas bonham-carter
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    Check these things:
    1.main vents on the end of the dry return. Time the arrival of steam from hot boiler header to end of dry return, and it should be only a few minutes.
    2.steady waterline in the sight glass, indicating clean water.
    3.thermostat properly set for steam at 1 CPH.
    4.boiler piped properly as in the installation manual.
    Post some pictures of the boiler, piping, and radiators, and more advice will follow.--NBC
  • Dave in QCA
    Dave in QCA Member Posts: 1,785
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    You might want to take a close look at your Hoffman 1A vents. On many systems they may be too fast unless adjusted down to about setting 3. However, take a look at how they work by completely removing the screw and the adjusting cap. You can see the little port hole that is partially covered depending on the setting of the adjustment cap. You will also notice that the cap can easily be jostled. As a result, while you may have the dial turned to 3, it could nearly wide open, or nearly closed, depending on how off center you have it positioned. I find it necessary to remove the screw, position the adjuster, and then reinstall the screw while firmly holding the adjuster to keep it from moving. It is NOT a very good design, but, they can be adjusted effectively if you're very careful.

    Again, I would start with position 3 and let it run a day and see where you are. Fast settings on the whole batch will often cause the whole system to be out of balance. The old adage is, "Vent your mains FAST and your radiators SLOW, but completely."
    Dave in Quad Cities, America
    Weil-McLain 680 with Riello 2-stage burner, December 2012. Firing rate=375MBH Low, 690MBH Hi.
    System = Early Dunham 2-pipe Vacuo-Vapor (inlet and outlet both at bottom of radiators) Traps are Dunham #2 rebuilt w. Barnes-Jones Cage Units, Dunham-Bush 1E, Mepco 1E, and Armstrong TS-2. All valves haveTunstall orifices sized at 8 oz.
    Current connected load EDR= 1,259 sq ft, Original system EDR = 2,100 sq ft Vaporstat, 13 oz cutout, 4 oz cutin - Temp. control Tekmar 279.
    http://grandviewdavenport.com
  • alboguy
    alboguy Member Posts: 26
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    nicholas bonham-carter, I have vents on the steam mains, radiators are pitched towards the valve, all the pipes in the basement are pitched correctly,the thermostat is set for steam. i dont know why i cant balance it. maybe the rads are venting too fast
  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,295
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    The tee at the end of the dry returns where the steam main vents are piped into is in the wrong position.
    The 3/4" end where the vents are piped into need to be on the vertical not the horizontal
    E-Travis Mechanical LLC
    Etravismechanical@gmail.com
    201-887-8856
  • Jason_13
    Jason_13 Member Posts: 304
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    Also the steam supply is incorrect. You should have two vertical risers to supply two steam mains.
    I also see no insulation on the steam mains. This will slow down the heating. Insulate all the steam carrying horizontal mains.
  • alboguy
    alboguy Member Posts: 26
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    ahhh thats why my heat is unbalanced, can you recommend a good plummer in worcester, boston area.
  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,295
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    Charles does great work and he knows his stuff.
    Give him call maybe he'll make the trip out to your neck of the woods.
    Charles Garrity Plumbing and Heating
    413-841 6726
    E-Travis Mechanical LLC
    Etravismechanical@gmail.com
    201-887-8856
  • alboguy
    alboguy Member Posts: 26
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    Thanks called him and left a msg
  • alboguy
    alboguy Member Posts: 26
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    Still looking for a steam pro to fix my issue
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 23,282
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    Might give Charles a call again and remind him -- very very politely. He will get back to you, but he's a very busy man.
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • alboguy
    alboguy Member Posts: 26
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    i got in contact with him today, thanks