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Kickstart THIS!

EastmanEastman Posts: 616Member ✭✭
I'm curious to hear what other ideas people would consider supporting via crowd funding. Smart vents that ensure balance? Variable EDR radiator valves? ???



What's missing from modern steam?
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  • EastmanEastman Posts: 616Member ✭✭
    The alternatives

    are quite expensive?
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  • Joe VJoe V Posts: 230Member
    what's missing from modern steam?

    Knowledge, of course! that's why we come here.



    actually, I believe steam has plateued because the market is shrinking. A 90%+ efficient boiler maybe?
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  • ChrisJChrisJ Posts: 3,400Member ✭✭✭
    Fix that

    How can you make the market grow?

    How can you make a steam system that will compete with other cheaper systems?



    You would think a system with almost no moving parts, no pumps, no fans, could be made to be cheaper then forced hot air, some how.



    I'm all for an outdoor reset for systems like mine.
    Weil-McLain EG-40 connected to 392sqft of radiation via two 2" risers into a 3" drop header and 2" equalizer. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment Typical operating pressure 0.5 - 1.0 inch wc.

    Steam system pictures updated 1/25/15.
    https://picasaweb.google.com/thetube0a3/Boiler?authkey=Gv1sRgCImUxIqv9436MQ#

    Don't push the envelope, eliminate it.
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  • JStarJStar Posts: 2,403Member ✭✭✭
    ODR

    Mark, I think we have a great candidate in ChrisJ for a launch prototype! He lives a few towns over from me, so callbacks won't be brutal.
    - Joe Starosielec
    732-494-4357
    j.star@thatcherhvac.com
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    Guaranteed performance. Guaranteed energy savings.
    Serving all of NJ, NYC, Southern NY State, and eastern PA.
    Consultation anywhere.
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  • ChrisJChrisJ Posts: 3,400Member ✭✭✭
    Absolutely

    I'd be glad to be a test subject if the opportunity ever presents it self.
    Weil-McLain EG-40 connected to 392sqft of radiation via two 2" risers into a 3" drop header and 2" equalizer. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment Typical operating pressure 0.5 - 1.0 inch wc.

    Steam system pictures updated 1/25/15.
    https://picasaweb.google.com/thetube0a3/Boiler?authkey=Gv1sRgCImUxIqv9436MQ#

    Don't push the envelope, eliminate it.
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  • nicholas bonham-carternicholas bonham-carter Posts: 5,546Member ✭✭✭
    I'm ready

    Also, could your control system be adapted to a hot water boiler, for a wider audience?--NBC
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  • SteamheadSteamhead Posts: 9,109Member ✭✭✭
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    "Reducing our country's energy consumption, one system at a time"
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Baltimore, MD (USA) and consulting anywhere.
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  • Joe VJoe V Posts: 230Member
    edited February 2014
    well that microsteam system certainly sounds intriguing

    I dont know how I missed that thread.
    Post edited by Joe V on
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  • gerry gillgerry gill Posts: 2,403Member ✭✭✭
    a code approved

    millivolt gas valve would be nice..steam boilers could be rated at higher efficiency i would think if they also used no electricity.
    gwgillplumbingandheating.com

    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

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  • gerry gillgerry gill Posts: 2,403Member ✭✭✭
    The return of the

    Hoffman #10 main vent would also be nice..the only thing venting faster than that was an open 1/2'' pipe.
    gwgillplumbingandheating.com

    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

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  • EastmanEastman Posts: 616Member ✭✭
    3/4 inch mains

    I'm looking back through the SelectTemp brochures. The technology seems so relevant to today. Is there a design/install manual out there somewhere?
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  • GordoGordo Posts: 385Member ✭✭
    Things I'd Like to See With Steam

    1) Hi-Lo firing in all size models.

    2) Accurate low pressure transducers in place of pressuretrols or even Vaporstats with direct digital read-outs of actual system pressures.

    3) A high temperature sensor in the flue gas stream to shut down boiler to prevent dry-firing in the event of LWCO failure.

    4) Sightglasses with ALL brass components and proper blow-down valves.

    5) A main vent with twice the venting as a Gorton #2.

    6) An affordable single pipe steam TRV.

    7) 3 small tube cast iron radiators made in the USA.

    8) Affordable firing cycle/outdoor reset t-stat (as others have said above)

    9) Add an O2 sensor in the flue gas stream, combine with the temperature sensor above add a processor (from an I-phone app) and get real time combustion efficiency...



    *sigh*

    Dream on, I guess.
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