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weil-mcclain steamer

keithkeith Posts: 40Member
anything in the codes stating that the header has to be welded ?? replacing this weil-mcclain boiler about 21 years old. The present header is 3 " pipe and welded. ??
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  • SteamheadSteamhead Posts: 9,046Member ✭✭✭
    Nope

    and if someone tells you they can't install 3-inch threaded pipe, find someone else. We do it all the time and it's not rocket science.



    What model W-M is this? What's going to replace it?
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    "Reducing our country's energy consumption, one system at a time"
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Baltimore, MD (USA) and consulting anywhere.
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  • keithkeith Posts: 40Member
    weil-mcclain steamer

    Thanks Frank. The present weil-mcclain boiler is a EGH105. They still make this model and i will be installing this one. The present header is welded.
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  • keithkeith Posts: 40Member
    weil-mcclain steamer

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  • SteamheadSteamhead Posts: 9,046Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 2013
    This boiler has a 3-inch header

    Not a W-M, but you get the idea:



    http://www.heatinghelp.com/forum-thread/146210/This-Weeks-Steamer-Replacement



    Replace that header. I'm surprised the old boiler lasted that long with a welded yoke like that.
    Post edited by Steamhead on
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    "Reducing our country's energy consumption, one system at a time"
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Baltimore, MD (USA) and consulting anywhere.
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  • Charlie from wmassCharlie from wmass Posts: 3,095Member ✭✭✭
    Keith have you sized the system?

    are you sure this is the boiler the system requires? As of late I have seen boilers both over and undersized so I had to ask.
    Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.

    cell # 413-841-6726
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/charles-garrity-plumbing-and-heating
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  • Charlie from wmassCharlie from wmass Posts: 3,095Member ✭✭✭
    have you looked at a wet base boiler?

    if you use a wetbase boiler with a power burner you can squeeze more saving out when running the boiler.
    Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.

    cell # 413-841-6726
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/charles-garrity-plumbing-and-heating
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  • keithkeith Posts: 40Member
    weil-mcclain steamer

    There is 2": baseboard elements in two shop bays and six unit heaters in the busniess at different areas. Sized the elements and unit heaters and did find that the btu,s of the boiler is a tad short. The mechanics in the shop do keep the heat set back and the owner has been happy with what has been in there for the past 20 years.
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  • SWEISWEI Posts: 4,735Member ✭✭✭✭
    How short

    is "a tad short"?
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  • Charlie from wmassCharlie from wmass Posts: 3,095Member ✭✭✭
    The sizing is more off if the rooms are not kept at 70

    Steam required goes higher per EDR as the room temperature goes down. Too small of a boiler will waste fuel with extended run times for heat. Are the units individually controlled for temperature?
    Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.

    cell # 413-841-6726
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/charles-garrity-plumbing-and-heating
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  • keithkeith Posts: 40Member
    weil-mcclain steamer

    Its a two zone system. The shop area and the unit heaters.. About 10,000 btu short. It does have another boiler that takes care of the office,break area and the owners office. It is a rental store and there have been cases of no power and heat breakdowns in which the owner used the propane heaters.
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  • Charlie from wmassCharlie from wmass Posts: 3,095Member ✭✭✭
    If it is zoned

    then being undersized is not that big of a deal.
    Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.

    cell # 413-841-6726
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/charles-garrity-plumbing-and-heating
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  • SWEISWEI Posts: 4,735Member ✭✭✭✭
    I was wondering about that

    The combination of pickup factor and zone diversity should change the math somehow.  Is there a recipe?
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